Timeline for What is the controversial 8th grade algebra mentioned on this answer?
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| Feb 19, 2020 at 3:23 | comment | added | shoover | @RustyCore Just illustrating your point to Džuris about American secondary education compared to the rest of the world, particularly Latvia, where Džuris is. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 23:54 | comment | added | Rusty Core | @shoover, what do you want to imply with these links and scores? | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 23:24 | comment | added | shoover | Latvia apparently does not currently participate in TIMSS for mathematics: nces.ed.gov/timss/countries_advanced.asp | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 23:18 | comment | added | shoover | @Džuris: 2018 PISA mathematics results for 15-year-olds: OECD mean 489. Latvia 496. USA 478. See oecd.org/pisa/publications/PISA2018_CN_LVA.pdf and oecd.org/pisa/publications/PISA2018_CN_USA.pdf . See also oecd.org/pisa/… | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 20:27 | comment | added | Džuris | @jonathanjo Latvia. I cited the curriculum as it is and has been for the past decades. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 19:58 | comment | added | jonathanjo | "I've had algebra here since ..." where is here? | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 19:28 | comment | added | Rusty Core | Džuris, the short answer is that American secondary education is way below most European and Asian school systems. If an 8-grader reads on a level of a 2-grader, which happens very often, you cannot teach them algebra or physics or even geography or proper history — kids simply cannot read and comprehend. Asian kids routinely used to take algebra in 7th or even in 6th grade, and when California decided to move algebra to 9th grade, it caused an uproar among Asian parents. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 15:54 | comment | added | bob0the0mighty | @Džuris, I went through algebra classes in 7th and 8th grade. It's been about 20 years, but I remember learning to solve simple equations of the type above as well as using similar tools during science classes in the same grades. I was responding to Dirk, where they imply that simple equations aren't algebra. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 15:41 | comment | added | Džuris | @bob0the0mighty maybe you can provide some insight to the "What do people in the US normally have at that age?" part? It appears from your profile you might have experienced that. No variables at all in the 7th and 8th grade? | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 14:15 | comment | added | bob0the0mighty | is that not algebra? It's simplistic, but I've always thought the inclusion of variables is the beginning of algebra. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 13:39 | comment | added | Džuris | @Dirk indeed, that's why I am asking. And I pinged the person. I decided it's better to split this off in a question of it's own instead of dragging on and on in the comments that unfourtunately tend to get deleted on this site. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 13:32 | comment | added | Dirk | Also depending on who you ask, solving simple linear equations (e.g. $5x + 3 = 7$, solve for $x$) can already be considered "algebra". | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 13:31 | comment | added | Dirk | I found this article, stating the exact opposite (that California is moving away from Algebra in grade 8): latimes.com/local/education/… Maybe ask the poster of that answer directly for sources or an explanation? | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 13:06 | history | asked | Džuris | CC BY-SA 4.0 |